The main breeder who produces this denies it (like everything else they produce) and blames the owner for not feeding raw food, or blames it on vaccinations (this is not even a symptom of vaccinosis, lol). This breeder knew she produced in the early 80's and admitted back then, now she denies it and threatens those who speak openly about it with law suits. You can see this does not intimidate me at all.

No one had ever had this problem or heard of it until they bred to Ch. Skansen's Indiana Jones, Ch. Skansen Gentleman Thief and Ch. Skansen's Handsome Stranger in the early to mid 80's. These three boys were sires by Skansen's Der Figaro V Kobuch who was sired by Lillemark's Kobuch. Bitches that go back to Kobuch directly as sire and grandsire also leaked. I believe this is where the incontinence originated from.

Since we all know Sylvia brags about doing no health testing, as she wrote in her article that was published in the parent club (GSCA) magazine in 2004, she has continued to breed and produce incontinence for over 25 years. (Along with epilepsy, auto-immune diseases and hip dysplasia) Unfortunately, the many back yard breeders and less than responsible breeders that have spawned from her also produce it and deny just as she does. Now it is a major health problem in our breed and while it is not life threatening it is very messy and stinky to live with.

When purchasing your new giant puppy be sure and ask the breeder if they have those dogs are in the bloodlines and look at the survey results to see if the puppy you are thinking about goes back to any of the many Skansen dogs listed. If any of these dogs are listed on either side of the pedigree there is a great chance your new Giant will leak urine her whole life. Unfortunately, most bloodlines have been polluted with these genes now. We only have about 4-5 breeders who are free of these polluted genes in our entire breed...scarey, huh!